Trayvongate: Newest Obama Scandal Is 17 Months Old

Trayvongate: Newest Obama Scandal is 17 Months Old -

 

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Welcome to Trayvongate, where the President of the United States used both the bully pulpit, the Department of Justice and sly media manipulation to gin up charges of racism in the George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin shooting. Now that the trial is almost finished and the only act of racism mentioned so far came from the victim--Martin called Zimmerman 'a creepy ass cracker' according to testimony--the cynical and repeated use of the race card by the White house is even more abhorrent.

 

Judicial Watch revealed documents today that proved what Breitbart News reported in April, 2012: that Eric Holder's Department of Justice took an active role in racially charged rallies in Sanford, Florida and that the Community Relations Service helped force the temporary resignation of Sheriff Bill Lee. That resignation made it appear that Sanford authorities were suspect and possibly complicit in covering up something.

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'In the Zimmerman case, they ended up as doing nothing to facilitate 'racial stability and harmony ', instead acting a heavy thumb on the scales of justice and helping to force events that gave the nation an impression that Martin's death was racially motivated.'
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  1. Brn2bfree

    DOJ organized protests against George Zimmerman…
    …. can you dig that folks?

    July 11, 2013
    1. wirelessguru1

      Zealot, I am planning to organize protests against zealots like you…

      July 11, 2013
      1. Brn2bfree

        Soo.. …. how’s your organized protests going…are you occupying some street corner. ??

        July 14, 2013
        1. wirelessguru1

          Zealot, I am occupying The Internet…

          July 14, 2013
          1. Brn2bfree

            With a virus… ?

            July 14, 2013
            1. wirelessguru1

              No, with an anti-virus. YOU’RE THE DAMN VIRUS! Wake up!!!

              July 14, 2013
          2. Brn2bfree

            Your problem is… you recently came to the realization that it’s a mans world… a macho man… not a metro sexual zealot like you….

            July 14, 2013
            1. wirelessguru1

              Zealot, I am the man.
              I am a men’s man.
              I am the ultimate macho man. Wake up zealot (virus)! LOL!!!

              July 14, 2013
          3. Brn2bfree

            Ultimate macho man? Let me hear you sing .. Whyyyy… MCA!!!

            July 14, 2013
            1. wirelessguru1

              No way, you’re singing that zealot. The ultimate macho man doesn’t do man but other man want to be like him…

              July 14, 2013
        2. Brn2bfree

          You will be judged by six white Mexicans… just remember.. you’re going to pay.. Carma is going to catch up withcha.

          July 14, 2013
          1. Brn2bfree

            karma

            July 14, 2013
          2. wirelessguru1

            Hello, hello, Karma is my bitch…
            WAKE UP ZEALOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
            +1 (Neo)

            July 14, 2013
          3. Neighsayer

            my karma ran over your dogma

            July 14, 2013
        3. bobbycamacho

          You waste your intellect on ‘wirelessguru1’ he has nothing useful to add except his own hollow thoughts that has absolutely no value to you or anyone else. He only post to take up space.

          July 23, 2013
    2. johnmariow

      Zimmerman violated Trayvon’s civil rights and probably will face charges.

      July 17, 2013
      1. bobbycamacho

        You need to prove that Zimmerman was the only one that is in violation of civil rights, Martin also violated Zimmerman’s rights, by attacking Zimmerman he was left with the choice but to defend himself, thus exercising his own right of self defense, known as self preservation. Both parties could have walked away, but they both made the choice to face off to one another. Martin surprise attack on Zimmerman cause Zimmerman to use any method of self defense, when Martin use his own weapons (his fist) to cause harm and, may even death to Zimmerman.

        You think this is a Civil Rights violation? The case proves the contrary. You are looking for a witch hunt in a case that proves it was self defense. Too bad they both could not walk away.

        July 23, 2013
        1. johnmariow

          The case doesn’t prove anything because nobody witnessed the complete event from the time Zimmerman started watching Trayvon from inside his car till the time Trayvon was shot. If your son called you and told you that some stranger was sitting in a car watching your son, what would you advise your son to do? Unfortunately, Trayvon was a teenager who acted without the advice of an adult.

          July 24, 2013
          1. bobbycamacho

            Thank you for proving my point: " because nobody witnessed the complete event from the time Zimmerman started watching Trayvon." This also means that you and, people that think like you pretend to have “witness” the event unfolding, therefore determining that a “civil” trial is needed. The outcome of the case proves beyond doubt that the LAW work.

            Martin was an adult teenager, he made his choice, as did Zimmerman. Any analogies you want to give is irrelevant. The reason, the case is over, the only thing left is the “Witch Hunt!” This is what people do when they disagree with the outcome of the law.

            They both had the opportunity to walk away.

            July 24, 2013
            1. Brn2bfree

              Great posts…. thanx
              It’s so hard to get through to john

              July 24, 2013
        2. johnmariow

          Was there anyone that witnessed that first attack? It is impossible to say whether either one was able to walk away from the situation because no one saw it. I’m not looking for a witch hunt. The Justice Department will decide if they should bring Zimmerman to trail for violating Trayvon’s civil rights.

          July 25, 2013
          1. bobbycamacho

            Justice has made its decision, now its the race baiters turns!~

            July 25, 2013
      2. wintersjc

        Stop being vague. We’ve all heard enough. Tell exactly how you think Zimmerman “violated” Martin’s civil rights.

        July 23, 2013
        1. johnmariow

          Zimmerman stalked Trayvon Martin because Trayvon ‘looked’ suspicious. and for no other reason. I’m not a lawyer. So here is the legal definition of civil rights.
          http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Civil+Rights

          July 24, 2013
          1. wintersjc

            I asked for YOUR definition of how you think GZ violated Martin’s rights. If you’re saying it is because he “stalked” Martin, it will have to be proven in a court of law. The charge is vague, unprovable and put forth by people who refuse to accept the fact that they lost this case. .
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            Besides, this case isn’t about “stalking”. It’s about self-defense. Once Trayvon started beating GZs head into the cement, for whatever reason, and GZ felt his life was being taken from he, he had every right to shoot and kill his executioner. Do you not want the same right for yourself, your son, or your wife or daughter?

            July 24, 2013
            1. bobbycamacho

              Excellent reply to johnmariow: They waste time when they themselves don’t know how the “law” works!

              July 24, 2013
            2. Neighsayer

              my only argument about self defense is that you can’t chase someone and then claim self defense; you have waived that right.

              July 25, 2013
            3. johnmariow

              I already stated that I’m not a lawyer and provided you with a definition of civil rights.

              July 25, 2013
  2. deaconjim

    The shooting wasn’t racially motivated, but Zimmerman profiled Martin and pursued him because he was black.

    July 11, 2013
    1. Brn2bfree

      He was a neighborhood watch dude…. He was following a suspicious person (hood) hiding behind a hoodie… … The black guy attacked the Mexican guy and was pounding his head. He was losing the fight… he feared for his life… he shot him. That’s the way the jury is seeing things.

      July 11, 2013
      1. livelonger

        So long as they can figure out how Martin saw Z’s gun under his coat under his back down by Martin’s ankle. Next time someone follows you in the dark, act nice.
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        You’re right – at stake is the right for non-police to leave a car to specifically follow a person around a neighborhood to confront him, most likely starting an incident where he can use his gun. Had he followed neighborhood watch procedure, he’d have stayed in his car and drove around to report the progress of Martin to his home, never having an opportunity to shoot people he doesn’t like. How many people in his neightborhood will want him checking on their relatives from now on?
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        Brn2nfree means to want a police state of vigilantes judging neighbors they don’t know and following them around.

        July 11, 2013
        1. Brn2bfree

          Nooo…. I want ‘Stand your ground law’ to kick in… They made a law for this type of situation.

          July 11, 2013
          1. livelonger

            Exactly …
            Anyone can now provoke a fight, especially with someone who is unarmed, and then shoot him when he fights back. It’s perfect for racist thugs.

            July 11, 2013
            1. wintersjc

              Sure, but you’d have to prove that in a court of law. All of the anti-Zimmerman blathering going on is nothing but empty speculation at best. An American court needs hard evidence and proof before convicting somebody…and I wouldn’t have it any other way. Would you?

              July 23, 2013
          2. bobbycamacho

            Yes they did!

            July 24, 2013
          3. Brn2bfree

            You and your brother LL are the same way… you guys talk in extremes..

            July 12, 2013
          4. deaconjim

            Brn, what does James Todd Smith have to do with this?

            July 12, 2013
    2. Brn2bfree

      deaconjim

      Brn, what does James Todd Smith have to do with this?
      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      I finally got it….. brother LL cool J…. oic. I like him,… NCIS LA…
      I was referring to Live Longer… He is a brother from another mother to Mr. Robama alias ‘skittles’

      July 14, 2013
      1. deaconjim

        It took you two days. Google or Bing would have been quicker.

        July 14, 2013
    3. Brn2bfree

      Both sides profiled each other… remember ‘creepy ass cracker’?

      July 14, 2013
      1. deaconjim

        Yeah, but at the risk of being accused of racism, I’d say Trayvon was right.

        July 14, 2013
    4. bobbycamacho

      So calling Zimmerman ‘a creepy ass cracker’ is not racist enough for you?

      July 23, 2013
      1. deaconjim

        To which comment are you responding? I said the shooting wasn’t racially motivated, meaning Zimmerman didn’t shoot Martin because he was black. Zimmerman followed Martin because he was black. He shot him because he’s not man enough to fight back. I agree I am speculating and it’s my opinion, not proven fact. I don’t think he would have followed me, even if I was wearing a hoodie. In a different comment, I said Trayvon was right when he called Zimmerman a creepy ass cracker.

        July 23, 2013
        1. bobbycamacho

          You were not there to make that sort of determination, the witness for the defense could not agree with that, why would you assume that you are an eye witness to the case? If you follow it, you would have notice that the “law” was in play. No laws were broken, end of case!

          July 24, 2013
          1. deaconjim

            I guess you skipped over the part where I said I was speculating, it was my opinion, and was not proven fact. My opinion is what it is. I posted it a

            July 24, 2013
    5. p_diaper

      You are claiming that it wasn’t racially motivated but had to do with the fact that Martin was black? How does that work? And where is there any evidence at all it had to do with the fact Martin was black?

      July 23, 2013
      1. deaconjim

        See my comment above.

        July 23, 2013
    6. bobbycamacho

      Zimmerman did profile Martin, but not because he was black, but dress as a “thud”, and being a stranger in his community also led Zimmerman to suspect that he was up to no good. Too bad they both make a bad choice not to walk away. You nor anyone can prove it was racially motivated.

      July 25, 2013
      1. deaconjim

        You’re stating opinion as fact. Were you in Zimmerman’s head to know with certainty why he profiled Martin? You nor anyone can prove it was not racially motivated. Look, I feel bad for the guy (Zimmerman). I’d hate to have to live with what he did on my conscience. I hope he’s learned something and finds a way to help others avoid similar tragedies. Maybe in the future he will let the police officers do their jobs and impress upon other neighborhood watch volunteers to do the same and act more cautiously. I think (opinion) the fact that Zimmerman had a gun was a factor in his decision to follow Martin. It’s like when alcohol gives one “liquid courage,” Zimmerman’s gun gave him “lead courage.” I wonder if he would have even gotten out of his vehicle had he not had the gun.
        .
        What if Trayvon’s dad had not gone out with his fiancee that night? What if Trayvon had just gone back to the townhouse that night and not confronted Zimmerman? What if Trayvon’s mother had kept him in Miami? What if George had been unarmed? What if George had stayed in his vehicle? What if George had postponed the errand he was running that night? Nobody can answer those what if’s. All we know is George Zimmerman’s version of events. Most of it probably happened the way he described it. All we’re doing is arguing about motivation. I and a lot of other people think Martin was followed because he was black. You and a lot of other people think Martin’s skin color had nothing to do with him being followed. I can leave it at that. I know you won’t be convinced otherwise, nor will I.

        July 25, 2013
        1. bobbycamacho

          First of all, not even you were in Zimmerman’s head. Did he profile TM, of course he did, not as a black man, but as someone dress like a thug, and in the wrong place. So far no one can prove that there was any racial overtone. You try to make something out of nothing, the case proves beyond a doubt that is was self defense. Twelve people of his peers to come to that conclusion. Too many what “if’s” has no meaning whatsoever, and totally irrelevant.

          The case is over and, now it is time to go back to the real issue that is affecting America.

          July 27, 2013
          1. deaconjim

            Here’s the thing. I never claimed to be in Zimmerman’s head.

            July 27, 2013
            1. bobbycamacho

              I don’t you or anyone can be inside Z’s head, but most pretend too.

              July 27, 2013
          2. Neighsayer

            Ha! He didn’t follow him ‘cause he looked black, he followed him ’cause he looked like a thug! It’s still profiling on your look, right? You know, if you live among thugs, you probably don’t want to go about looking like a Mormon. If he dressed like a Jehovah’s Witness, he’d be profiled and persecuted by his peers. If he dresses like his peers, he gets profiled and persecuted by the neighborhood watch – being young and black is a tough gig all around.

            There was a juror today, or yesterday, a Hispanic lady from Chicago, I think, who came out and said 2nd. degree or manslaughter wouldn’t stick with the evidence they had, but that she felt GZ ‘got away with murder.’

            July 27, 2013
            1. deaconjim

              I read about that. She said she voted guilty at first. When the jury sent the judge a question about manslaughter, I thought they were leaning that way, but I wasn’t surprised by the eventual verdict.

              July 27, 2013
            2. Brn2bfree

              There was a juror today, or yesterday, a Hispanic lady from Chicago, I think, who came out and said 2nd. degree or manslaughter wouldn’t stick with the evidence they had, but that she felt GZ ‘got away with murder
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              First of all, she looked black to me. I think she want’s her 15 min of fame. She’s a flippin and a floppin….. like a fish out of water.
              ….

              July 27, 2013
            3. bobbycamacho

              That is the point! Even you will profile a person by the way they dress, everyone does, all you did was to prove my entire point that this was about the way he was dress, and being in the wrong place, not the color of his skin!

              Again too many “if’s” which means nothing. That is hearsay. That Juror had to deliver a verdict of NOT guilty because she had to follow the letter of the LAW! NOT her emotions. I to seen her interview, she said she had to follow the law, her personal “feelings” did not matter in the courtroom. GZ did get away with murder, because he was found not guilty! No matter how you or anyone wishes to turn it around, you can’t change the verdict. Those that don’t like the outcome simply does not understand that this is a nation of laws, not feelings!

              July 27, 2013
            4. Neighsayer

              @Brn: I never saw her, I heard it on the radio, NWPR. ‘looked black’ to you, huh? And that invalidates her, of course?

              July 27, 2013
            5. Neighsayer

              @bobbycamacho: this from me, in another thread:

              http://williamemills41.thoughts.com/posts/the-trayvon-george-lesson-that-was-apparently-missed

              There was no kind of witch-hunt for George, there was the very opposite of that: initially, no charge at all, then after public outcry, the feds thought bringing some charges would be good PR (or they just thought no charges at all just wasn’t just), so they pressed for charges. Then the charge they made was all for show, it was too much: 2nd degree murder was something no-one would ever get a conviction on because no-one knows who started the fight. I’ll spell that out a little clearer:
              When the police and their prosecutors want you off the street and in prison, they charge you with something they can win a conviction with. It’s what they do, all day every day, and they know what they’re doing. There are any number of other charges, lesser charges,to be sure, that were far more apt, and winnable. So the police were pressured to charge, but it’s obvious, at least to me, that they didn’t want to convict George of anything. Is it true his Dad was a judge?
              This is where racism comes into it, or, there’s a slim chance it was only nepotism, if it’s true about Zimmerman senior. Still, even so, getting away with never charging or never convicting George would depend on some systemic and social racism. Let me spell that out too:
              No-one should care about George’s theoretical racism; the racism of one man is mice-nuts. The outrage is, or should be, about the police’s racism, and the racism of the general population – like any white swine who could ever suggest that charging George was somehow “trumped up.”

              July 27, 2013
            6. Brn2bfree

              Neighsayer

              @Brn: I never saw her, I heard it on the radio, NWPR. ‘looked black’ to you, huh? And that invalidates her, of course?
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              No it doesn’t… just saying. (check it out… google it).. You keep making assumptions always. Quit it!
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              I would also like to add that if there were a couple of blacks in the jury… 4 times out of five they will vote for the black guy. (call me a racist for this statement… I don’t care). I look at how many blacks voted for Obama… and OJ Simpson’s case.
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              There’s so many mix races on now days that it shouldn’t be about race.. If the Democrats and liberals want to make it about race … then so be it… I’ll throw race back in their faces.

              July 28, 2013
            7. Neighsayer

              read my previous comment, my answer to this is in there.

              July 28, 2013
  3. 29A

    It’s outrageous. Has the US devolved to the point where the DOJ can act in a partial manner to effect some outcome even before a trial has been held? This isn’t the first time for Obama’s DOJ, so thumbs down to the Obama administration.

    July 11, 2013
    1. Brn2bfree

      You’re my favorite liberal… thanx for the great post.

      July 11, 2013
      1. 29A

        I’m still not a liberal, but a libertarian.

        July 11, 2013
        1. Brn2bfree

          …cool. It’s just me… I think you’re either one or the other…. liberal or conservative…. there are different shades of each.

          July 11, 2013
          1. livelonger

            “I think you’re either one or the other”
            Yes; your view is black or white with no shades allowed.

            July 11, 2013
            1. Brn2bfree

              I never said it wasn’t allowed…

              July 11, 2013
        2. wirelessguru1

          Well to the Zealot here (brn) everyone outside of his group of cohorts (zealots) is a liberal! LOL!!!

          July 11, 2013
        3. 29A

          Ohh! That’s harsh. So what, in your estimation the only political designation which isn’t racist is the modern-day Democratic party?

          July 11, 2013
    2. livelonger

      Ah, yes – Barney with his 180 -upside down backwards thinking along with his followers – thinks that sending community relation peacemakers is a dangerous plot. The think it would have been far better to have riots, where crazies could have gotten away with using their guns after they provoked confrontations using the phony ‘stand your ground law’ to permit murder..
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      From the reference given by Barney above to prove that the DOJ was manipulating:
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      “10:52 p.m. EST, April 15, 2012|
      By Arelis R. Hernández, Orlando Sentinel
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      When racial tensions flared in Sanford, a league of secretive peacemakers reached out to the city’s spiritual and civic leaders to help cool heated emotions after 17-year-old Trayvon Martin was shot and killed in February.
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      When civil-rights organizers wanted to demonstrate, these federal workers taught them how to peacefully manage crowds.”
      http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-04-15/news/os-trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman-justice-departm-20120415_1_federal-workers-racial-tensions-peacekeepers

      July 11, 2013
      1. 29A

        Well, I hadn’t heard of the Community Relations Service dept. of the DOJ, and certainly didn’t know of their role as federal ‘“peacemakers” for community conflicts and tensions arising from differences of race, color, and national origin’.
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        However, the Judicial Watch article noted that, "the documents obtained by Judicial Watch suggest that the unit deployed to Sanford, FL, took an active role in working with those demanding the prosecution of Zimmerman. " And your same Orlando Sentinel article even noted that the CRS, “helped set up a meeting between the local NAACP and elected officials that led to the temporary resignation of police Chief Bill Lee…”
        http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/documents-obtained-by-judicial-watch-detail-role-of-justice-department-in-organizing-trayvon-martin-protests/
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        Lee further complained that there was outside influence and that the investigation was taken away from the Sanford P.D., "The police department needed to do a job, and there was some influence — outside influence and inside influence — that forced a change in the course of the normal criminal justice process…. That investigation was taken away from us. We weren’t able to complete it… "
        http://edition.cnn.com/2013/07/10/justice/sanford-bill-lee-exclusive/

        July 11, 2013
        1. livelonger

          The Sanford PD normal criminal justice process was just what they did – they didn’t prosecute Zimmerman at all, didn’t even arrest him.

          July 11, 2013
          1. 29A

            The Sanford PD didn’t arrest him because they didn’t have enough evidence and could have faced litigation. Imo, both his arrest and prosecution were efforts to placate the public. You had mass demonstrations, Martin’s family publicly calling for his arrest, and the NAACP urging Holder to review the case.
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            “That is the circumstance we are dealing with: If we arrest, we open ourselves to a lawsuit,” Sgt. Dave Morgenstern, a spokesman with the Sanford Police Department, said.
            http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/19/us/911-tapes-released-in-killing-of-florida-teenager.html

            July 12, 2013
            1. Neighsayer

              and they don’t have to worry about lawsuits if they only arrest poor black people. That’s exactly the sort of bullshit we’re talking about here.

              July 12, 2013
            2. 29A

              I just see the bullshit differently:
              1) The story only received as much publicity as it did because it was a white/Hispanic on black crime.
              2) The popular protests, the people who were calling for his arrest and prosecution, were already convinced that either the PD was inept or Zimmerman was guilty – either way, they had zero evidence.
              3) There are certainly other more vicious crimes that receive no national coverage. For instance, around the same time as Trayvon’s shooting, two 16-year-old black teens set a white 13-year-old on fire. Hardly any news coverage. True, the 13-year-old didn’t die, he only had 1st degree burns on his head. But there was certainly no question of self-defense involved.
              http://www.kmbc.com/Police-Pair-Set-13-Year-Old-Boy-On-Fire/-/11664900/12259382/-/5opx0/-/index.html

              July 12, 2013
          2. Neighsayer

            THANK YOU.

            July 12, 2013
          3. Neighsayer

            LOL

            July 14, 2013
        2. Brn2bfree

          Well, I hadn’t heard of the Community Relations Service dept. of the DOJ, and certainly didn’t know of their role as federal ‘“peacemakers” for community conflicts and tensions arising from differences of race, color, and national origin’.
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          It seems like all of these government agencies… CRS .. from the DOJ, IRS, NLRB, EPA are all pushing the liberal political agenda… just the way the Democrats like it.

          July 14, 2013
  4. Neighsayer

    So the DOJ got involved and that means the corrupt and racist federal government went in and took over for the perfectly just, non-racist and impartial local sheriff’s office in some Florida town? That’s the Right’s theory? Gotta like it! It’s soooo obvious.

    July 11, 2013
    1. Neighsayer

      Our worst fears have come true. Some smart black Chicago constitutional lawyer’s justice organization thinks they might have a more enlightened view of the situation than the Sheriff from ‘Easy Rider.’ It’s the total collapse of civil society.

      July 11, 2013
      1. wirelessguru1

        The anti-Christ…

        July 11, 2013
        1. wirelessguru1

          He is…

          July 11, 2013
        2. Neighsayer

          well, Christ was a bit of a shyster. Oh! I think I have a new post . . .
          But what’s the ‘anti’ of shyster? Unspectacular but honest?

          July 11, 2013
  5. johnmariow

    George Zimmerman was the bully who thought he was big because he had a gun. The tragic result was the death of a seventeen year old teenager who was stalked on a dark rainy night.

    July 15, 2013
    1. Brn2bfree

      You’re in line with most of the liberals. It seems like you all think alike.
      .
      A jury said it was self defense. He may have stalked him… I’ll give you that but a fight happened… regardless of who started, Trayvon was beating his head to the ground…. Zimmerman also wanted to live… Is that a crime to defend yourself????

      July 15, 2013
      1. johnmariow

        johnmariow
        What about Trayvon’s rights. Trayvon knew someone was stalking him. Trayvon may have acted out of fear for his own life! Was it a crime for Trayvon to defend himself?

        July 17, 2013
        1. Brn2bfree

          It was a tragedy and both sides profiled each other.
          .
          You see, there was crime in the neighborhood… so the community put together a neighborhood watch…… Zimmerman was patrolling the neighborhood….(not stalking). He saw a person in a hoodie checking out the place. Zimmerman confronted Trayvon… a fight started… Trayvon was winning, pounding Zimmermans head to the ground… In an effort to save his life, he ended Trayvons.
          .
          That’s what happened…You liberals didn’t get what you wanted. A juries decision isn’t good enough for you guys eh?…

          July 17, 2013
          1. Neighsayer

            I think probably Zimmerman’s head got hurt because he was reaching for the gun instead of blocking the punches . . .

            July 17, 2013
            1. Brn2bfree

              I think you’re right… The seventeen year old was bigger and more aggressive…. but Zimmerman was ready and packing for something like this…
              I don’t think Travon would have lived to see 25 if he survived this fight…

              July 17, 2013
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          3. johnmariow

            A person in a hoodie checking out the place? Or a teenager looking for help?
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            Zimmerman should have stayed in his vehicle. That’s what he was advised to do. The police were on their way. Zimmerman was stalking Trayvon the moment he left his vehicle. How was Trayvon suppose to know who Zimmerman was? Stop expecting a 17 year old teenager to act like an adult.
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            How long was Zimmerman sitting in his car watching Trayvon? How long can one sit in a car watching a teenager before we can say the person is stalking the teenager? What was going through Trayvon’s mind when he realized some stranger in a car was watching him? Trayvon cannot outrun a car.
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            And what happens if the stalker turns out to be a child molester? Thank God Zimmerman was not a child molester. But child molesters do the same thing. They sit in their cars and watch a youngster waiting for the youngster to enter a lonely neighborhood. Furthermore, what do teenagers learn from their environment? They learn not to stand down! That’s what they learn.
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            It’s okay for a grown man to stalk a teenager but it’s not okay for the teenager to react? Zimmerman is responsible for the death of Trayvon because Zimmerman did not stay in his vehicle. Zimmerman is responsible for the death of Trayvon because Zimmerman chose to carry a gun instead of pepper spray.
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            The sad fact was that Trayvon is not alive to explain what happened. Right or wrong, no one will ever know the truth.

            July 18, 2013
            1. Brn2bfree

              I can’t believe you… how you are so obsessed with race…
              A jury said it wasn’t about race…
              FBI investigated and found no racism…
              Btw, that Rachel, maybe provoked Trayvon, by saying that ‘creepy ass cracker was a child molester… run Travvon run.. but Trayvon wasn’t that kind a guy … instead he confronted Zimmerman and punched him and kept beating his head to the ground.. Why do you want to overlook that?
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              Yes, Zimmerman should have stayed in the vehicle… that’s irrelevant… should of could of.. let’s deal with what happened. They always give that kind of council to people who call on situations like that … don’t follow.. .stay away… wait for the police… so on. That’s normal common advice they give to everyone. His job was to keep his neighborhood safe. Find out what this guy is up to.

              July 19, 2013
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        3. bobbycamacho

          Martin did not act out of fear, he acted out because, of hate and anger. He had the element of surprise and, thus abusing his rights. He abused his rights and, attack Zimmerman. The FBI could not find anything out of place at the time that it happen. What makes you think you have all the answers when the FBI does not?

          July 24, 2013
          1. deaconjim

            How would you know why Martin reacted the way he did? Were you in his head or is it just your opinion and not a proven fact.

            July 24, 2013
          2. johnmariow

            How do you know? An unknown person was watching him and following him. Zimmerman acted foolishly.

            July 25, 2013
            1. bobbycamacho

              I have the very same information that you do, the difference is that I use common sense, you are using politics!

              July 25, 2013
      2. Neighsayer

        Yes, Brn, we all think alike, while you Righties are so original and diverse!

        July 17, 2013
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  7. johnmariow

    Brn2bfree, I didn’t bring up race in my comments. Perhaps you should read my comments again and tell me exactly where I brought up race.
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    You cannot escape the fact that Trayvon Martin was a child who thought someone was stalking him. Trayvon Martin was born on Feb 5 1995. He died on Feb 26 2012. He had just turned 17 years old.
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    George Zimmerman’s job was to report it to the police. He was not suppose to find out what Trayvon was up to. He was not a cop. The police were on their way. Your statement comes uncomfortably close to advocating vigilantism.

    July 19, 2013
    1. bobbycamacho

      You don’t need to bring up race when in fact you’re implying it!

      July 24, 2013
      1. johnmariow

        Not implying racism.

        July 25, 2013
        1. bobbycamacho

          Why protect a thug? Martian’s own bio proves he was thud.

          July 25, 2013
  8. Brn2bfree

    Do you think the Dept of Justice should pick sides?

    July 11, 2013
    1. wirelessguru1

      Zealot, any side that the Dept of Justice picks should be against you…

      July 11, 2013
      1. Brn2bfree

        If I wanted any lip from you, I’d get from my zipper.

        July 14, 2013
        1. wirelessguru1

          Zealot, wake up!!!

          July 14, 2013
          1. wirelessguru1

            Well purple poop, I am not forcing you to read anything! Wake up!!!

            July 24, 2013
  9. Brn2bfree

    If Obama had a son.. he would look like Mr. Robama..

    July 11, 2013
  10. 29A

    How is it a conspiracy theory when the report quotes DOJ documents retrieved through FOIA?
    http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/documents-obtained-by-judicial-watch-detail-role-of-justice-department-in-organizing-trayvon-martin-protests/

    July 11, 2013
    1. 29A

      It is common to hold the head responsible for what occurs within a organization. Boehner gets blamed for what occurs on in the House; Reid for things in the Senate; why not Obama for that which occurs in the Executive?

      July 11, 2013
      1. 29A

        Wasn’t talking about off-the-cuff boneheaded remarks, but legislative stuff.
        Now you’re splitting hairs…
        Blame – 1. To hold responsible.
        A lot of people have no problems with blaming W. Bush for 9/11, even though it was also a failure of the intelligence community. It was the responsibility of the Executive branch; it occurred during his presidency; therefore he gets the blame. Same goes for Obama.

        July 11, 2013