In the Koran it is said that children are an enemy

All a devout Muslim has to say is that the children are tainted by western education; like Americans who go to college become tainted by liberals.

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"Authorities blamed the violence on Boko Haram, a radical group whose name means "Western education is sacrilege." The militants have been behind a series of recent attacks on schools in the region, including one in which gunmen opened fire on children taking exams in a classroom.

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Hassan recalled how the gunmen came armed with jerry cans of fuel that they used to torch the school's administrative block and one of the dormitories.

"They burned the children alive," he said, the horror showing in his wide eyes.

He and teachers at the morgue said dozens of children from the 1,200-student school escaped into the bush, but have not been seen since."

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/07/06/30-killed-in-school-attack-in-northeast-nigeria/

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"Muhammad did, in fact, draw a distinction between Muslim and non-Muslim children and said that it would be permissible to kill a child who has no prospect of accepting Islam:

The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) used not to kill the children, so thou shouldst not kill them unless you could know what Khadir had known about the child he killed, or you could distinguish between a child who would grow up to he a believer (and a child who would grow up to be a non-believer), so that you killed the (prospective) non-believer and left the (prospective) believer aside. (Sahih Muslim 4457)

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/muhammad/myths-mu-kill-children.htm

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  1. deaconjim

    “you could distinguish between a child who would grow up to he a believer (and a child who would grow up to be a non-believer), so that you killed the (prospective) non-believer and left the (prospective) believer aside.”
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    This sounds like the movie “Minority Report” where people were arrested before they committed their crime.

    July 06, 2013
  2. Neighsayer

    Maybe if women who want abortions could tell the authorities here that they will make absolutely sure the unwanted child would never see the inside of a church, they might get their wish . . .

    July 07, 2013
  3. 29A

    Well contrary to your title, this is from a hadith, not from the Koran. But it’s interesting, as I hadn’t seen this particular hadith before.
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    But weren’t you arguing with me just a few weeks ago that most Muslims don’t read the Koran, and that even if they do what made me think they’d follow anything in it, and what made me think that they were taught a particular pillar of Islam? What you’re presenting here is hadith material, and still fewer Muslims read the hadiths. Furthermore, the Sahih Muslim hadith is only recognized by the Sunni sect, the Shia and some Sunnis dismiss it as fabricated and untrustworthy. So as few as half of Muslims may recognize the Sahih Muslim hadith.

    July 07, 2013
    1. jillsthoughts

      Most of us are so uneducated regarding the differences between the different factions within Islam. I knew that this interpretation wasn’t from the same book that my very few Muslim friends read. Thanks for educating me today.

      July 07, 2013
      1. livelonger

        If there were only one version of the Koran to read. Like the Bible, there were many versions until a central power made one the standard; but there are several versions with slight differences now; the main version being from Egypt:
        http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-quran-changed-20-versions.htm

        A hadith is of the body of tradition and legend about Mohammed and his followers, used as a basis of Islamic law. A reader of the Koran might insist on his interpretation, or go to a scholar for advice, who might offer a hadith that further explains a passage.
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        The Koran is believed to be written by Mohammed; though there were slightly different versions due to Arabic dialects, missing marks and vowels when it was written down from the memorizations of different leaders. Both Koran and hadith are supposed to come from the revelations in the life of of Mohammed.

        July 07, 2013
    2. livelonger

      The same result could happen if no Muslims read the Koran, some, or all Muslims that read the Koran – believe the interpreters who create the hadith, as they base their clerical decisions on the Koran. This group made their decision to kill children from their belief of their religion of peace.
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      Other faiths wouldn’t consider the hadith to come from their prophet. Your assumption is that the hadith was an invention of Sunni from whole cloth without regard to the messages of Mohammed, so that a hadith has no tie to the Koran.

      July 07, 2013
      1. 29A

        “Your assumption is that the hadith was an invention of Sunni from whole cloth…”
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        Not at all, I just presented the Sunni/Shia positions, realizing that hadith are to supplement and clarify the perspicacious Koran, and in matters of jurisprudence. If you want assumptions, here are a few… half of the Koran is plagiarized; Muhammad’s revelations are probably a result of temporal lobe epilepsy. As far a hadiths go, Muhammad’s ‘revelations’ justified his thoughts and actions, and I don’t see why the hadith writers wouldn’t follow that example.

        July 08, 2013
        1. livelonger

          We agree. The Koran had notations on the page to expand upon the passage and explain them; hadith has the same on separate pages.

          July 08, 2013
  4. Neighsayer

    I’m sure that is exactly the same theory by which we can justify drone strikes that take out our terrorist along with his entire clan, kids and all. “They were never going to believe like we do, born and raised in that environment. They’re sure to have the same beliefs as their patriarch.”
    Goose/gander . . .

    July 07, 2013
  5. wirelessguru1

    Either case, most of these people are complete fanatics. Look at Egypt right now and how the Islamists are desperately trying to re-gain control of the people!

    July 08, 2013
    1. livelonger

      We shall see if the Muslim Brotherhood and assorted faithful are actually in the majority, while they face the military and the less fanatical. There’s a similarity in the US with moderates and liberals facing a minority seeking power at all costs.

      July 08, 2013
      1. wirelessguru1

        Yep, we shall see…and BTW, this is most likely the final Muslim/Islam religious world war since Egypt, of course, represents all of the old civilizations since pre-History…and some will soon call it Armageddon…

        July 08, 2013
      2. livelonger

        Christians and Jews might call it Armageddon, as that place is in the Bible in Israel.
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        “We do not need to identify Gog and Magog with any nation or race. It seems that it is a generic name for some wild, unruly, barbaric, uncivilized, and un-religious people. They were causing trouble in the past, and then, again, they or some people like them will cause some mischief before the end of the world. It is reported in the Hadith that Imam Mahdi and Jesus (may Allah be pleased with both of them) will destroy them and then peace will prevail on this earth. May Allah protect us from their trials. Amen.
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        Thus, Islamic tradition speaks of a major war of the Muslims (including those Jews and Christians who follow Jesus after his return) led by Imam Mahdi, against the kafirs (non-believers) and mushriks (the polytheists) led by the Antichrist. In this battle, Jesus will kill the Dajjal and there will be a peaceful government under him until his death (peace be upon him).
        http://www.onislam.net/english/ask-about-islam/faith-and-worship/islamic-creed/166193-the-final-battle.html

        July 08, 2013
        1. wirelessguru1

          blah, blah, blah…

          July 08, 2013
        2. livelonger

          It may be blah blah; but a saviour of mankind at the end of days was missing in the Koran.
          The Imam Mahdi fills that spot.

          July 08, 2013
          1. wirelessguru1

            ..and why should mankind be “saved” anyway!?

            July 08, 2013
            1. livelonger

              Dunno. Preachers insist it’s a good idea.

              July 08, 2013
            2. wirelessguru1

              ..and what do “Preachers” know anyway!? Are they masterminds also!? LOL!!!

              July 08, 2013
            3. livelonger

              Oh, yes. Every victim is a potential contributor.

              July 08, 2013
            4. wirelessguru1

              A potential contributor to what?

              July 08, 2013
            5. livelonger

              No, to whom.

              July 08, 2013
            6. wirelessguru1

              So the victims are potential contributors to the Preachers, then what!?

              July 08, 2013
          2. wirelessguru1

            The Dinosaurs were not saved!!!

            July 08, 2013
            1. livelonger

              They didn’t have enough communication to play the Victim-Savior-Punisher game. They could only play the Eat-or-be-Eaten game.

              July 08, 2013
            2. wirelessguru1

              Well, at the end (when fighting for survival) it is still just the Eat-or-be-Eaten game…

              July 08, 2013